Here’s What It’s Like For A Woman To Send a Job Rejection To A Man

I run a science site, From Quarks to Quasars. Like most science sites, we post articles about the latest developments in science news and research. Recently, we put out an ad on Indeed.com looking for part-time, freelance science writers. We received some 100 responses (and counting). A lot of the people who applied had a ton of experience in a variety of fields; however, no real experience in science writing.

We also got quite a few applications from people who have rather impressive science writing credentials. As such, we had to reject a lot of people with pretty outstanding resumes. Although many had a lot of experience, and were very articulate and impressive candidates on the whole, they didn’t have relevant experience.

And of course, there was one older, white, academic man who felt the need to tell us that we are, “imperious little girls,” and that “we are not superior to [him].”

Perhaps another key to this equation, one that I have failed to mention hereto, is that From Quarks to Quasars is managed by two women. Perhaps that is irrelevant, but I don’t think so. The “little girls” reference makes that pretty clear.

But either way, the exchange that I had with this individual reeked of that patriarchal arrogance that one sometimes finds in gentlemen who are in positions of power. You know the ones that I mean—the men who have been groomed by our society to feel that they are “special,” that they are an authority  on every subject, that their point of view is the only right one, that (in short) they are the masters and kings of all that they survey. Such people often assume a tone that is patronizingly paternalistic, which you will see in the way that this individual scolds us.

But to get to the story….

The person in question is an academic. He is an American poet who has a list of publications that is about a mile long. Several poetry books, chapbooks, reviews of poetry books, essays on poetry that were published in peer review journals, and on and on. Consequently, if you look up his resume online, as is true of many academics, it is absurdly long (listing about 100 publications). Clearly, he is successful in his line of work. However, his “line of work” is clearly not science writing. The introduction to his cover letter reads thus: “I am a well-published and award-winning poet; a free-lance journalist; a writer of non-fiction and a stylist in the lineage as Joan Didion and John McPhee; and a children’s book author.”

So. Not science.

Why we rejected him…

Simply put, he’s not a science writer. That’s the only consideration that factored into our decision. Looking at his impressive list of publications, there isn’t anything even remotely on science. At least, nothing that I have seen. Admittedly, I didn’t look up every single publication. But either way, if not being a science writer isn’t a good enough reason for you, here are a few other reasons that we could have rejected him.

  • He didn’t send a resume (which our job ad listed as “required material” for any potential candidate). We had to look it up online ourselves; he didn’t even include a link to it.
  • He didn’t send a 500 word writing sample on a relevant news story (again, our job ad listed this as “required material” for any potential candidate). When you are looking for science writers, and you want to effectively assess them, having a writing sample is an absolute must.
  • He sent a generic cover letter that was not geared towards our organization or our job ad. We received hundreds of submissions. If we are going to take the time to read the documents that you send us, you should take the time to tailor the documents to us.

How he responded and where we went from there…

Apparently, one time, this person wrote an article about …(EDIT: Had to remove artist’s name as it allowed people to identify the author of the emails)…, an artist who did paintings of dinosaurs. Writing an article about someone who did dinosaur paintings makes him a science writer. The fact that we didn’t notice this one article (out of his absurdly long list of publications), means that we didn’t bother to read his cover letter, have no discernment, and think that we “know it all.”

I shouldn’t have responded to his (highly unprofessional) email. However, I am a doctoral candidate at the University of Southern Mississippi. My focus is on English Literature. Meaning that I know a lot of poets. A whole lot. I could have forwarded this email to all of them. I could have posted it on professional forums. I could send it to journals where he has been published. I didn’t, because I am not that cruel (or insane), and it would really serve no purpose.

But I did respond to the email, stating that his reply was unprofessional and reminding him that it is a bad idea to go on the record using such rhetoric. Anyone who knows anything about the viral natural of the internet knows that it is a bad idea to go on the record about anything. I also explained that we did read his cover letter but, no, writing about a painter (even if the painter paints dinosaurs) is not science writing.

I didn’t mention that we move in the same circle. I didn’t say that I had no intent to actually pass the email on. I didn’t expound or clarify because, quite frankly, it wasn’t worth my time. Really, I just wanted him to rethink his rhetoric. I was genuinely trying to give him some feedback on his approach. People are always so mean to strangers on the internet, but (as many of my other posts state) we don’t have to be mean to strangers on the internet. Writing to us the way he did is entirely unacceptable. [EDIT: Some have pointed out that my second response to him was also lacking in professionalism. I am willing to admit this. I was pretty horrified by his response, and responded with more than was necessary. And clarifying my meaning, so he didn’t take it as a threat, would have been helpful. The rest of what I wrote in this post stands.]

Anyways, clearly, he didn’t spend any time reflecting on his rhetoric or how he was presenting himself. Why would he? He is a highly educated academic. We are just “little girls.” Clearly, he is in the right and we have no idea what we are doing.

Why I am posting this…

I am posting this for several reasons. I want people to know that, when you write to a stranger on the internet, you aren’t just writing to a stranger on the internet. This is something that I try very hard to teach my own students. If the person chooses to share your words, you are (for all intents and purposes) writing to whoever they show your words to. Thus, you are (potentially) writing to the whole world. Consequently, you have to carefully think about what you say when you post something online. Indeed, you should reflect on your rhetoric whenever you write anything anywhere. You’re never speaking into a vacuum.

I am posting this because I want people to know that there is a real person sitting on the other side of the screen. You wouldn’t walk up to someone on the street and call them an “imperious little girl.” Don’t do it online. The internet can be a fantastic community. It doesn’t have to be a place where we all go to be mean to one another. It shouldn’t be a horrid free-for-all. Using the words that he did is a horrible way to present oneself to potential employers…or anyone. Even on the internet, only jerks are mean.

I am posting this because I want people to see how women are treated online. The number of times that I have received gender based insults from people on the internet is horrifying. Receiving even one is horrifying. But it’s not just the gender based insults, because the sexism would be there even without the insults. It’s in the tone that he adopts—the arrogant, authoritative, “king of all he surveys” attitude. And I don’t think that we can separate this individual’s response from his gender. While, in my own experiences with my peers, I feel accepted and respected, I still feel that this is an issue that needs some addressing and should be acknowledged.

But I will leave everyone to make their own decisions, as the exchange is posted below (with his name removed).

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10 thoughts on “Here’s What It’s Like For A Woman To Send a Job Rejection To A Man

  1. I don’t know… I reckon he had troll balls to respond to your “optional” response to his application… perhaps it’s to avoid that kind of “getting in each other’s hair” that most employers won’t bother responding to all and every application…

    Take a deep breath… it’s over now

  2. “Do not email me again: have your last word in silence, burn in your own anger for a while.”

    Classic narcissist. Right on for your response, well written and delivered perfectly. Also, fist bump for the school. Southern Miss…

  3. Hey, came across this somehow. It’s not my business, so, like him, I probably shouldn’t respond – but anyway…

    1. You rejected someone for a job.

    2. Their ego got hurt, and they responded, criticising your professionalism. By this stage it’s clear he’s given up working with you and is annoyed that you rejected him. The criticism at this stage is mild.

    3. Your ego got hurt by his criticism, you threaten to make public your private communication, and you aggressively criticise his application, his lack of professionalism, etc.

    4. He responded in anger to your accusations of unprofessional behaviour, your perceived threat to make his communication public, and uses sex specific insults.

    5. You make good on your threat.

    I’m not defending his behaviour at step 4, but you were unprofessional at step 3. It’s natural that some people are upset at being rejected, and sometimes they may be critical of your decision.

    You reacted a lot more strongly to his criticism of you in step 2 than he did of yours in step 1.

    I wouldn’t want to work with either of you.

    • Hey, as I note in the post I wrote, I wasn’t threatening to publicly shame him. I was just trying to highlight how silly it is to go on the record with something like this. Horrid rhetoric. But I probably should have clarifed that better in my response to him. And I didn’t call him out. I removed his name, email, and the title of his publications. I went out of my way to ensure people can’t find him. My intent was to start a conversation about gender and how we talk online. not form a hate mob against this guy.

      • Putting aside whether or not he can be discovered, and whether or not publicising posts without name is or isn’t making someone’s posts public, in your response, even though you might not have intended to threaten him, to anyone reading it, it’s a threat since you’re the only person who can make his posts public. Even if your intention is just to warn him, there is still an implication.

        You rejected someone’s job application. Of course they will be hurt, and some may criticise you. In my opinion it’s your responsibility to recognise that, brush off their criticisms and respond with appropriate professional empathy, or, failing that, just professionalism. But you reacted at least as emotionally as he did.

        By the way, the artist’s name is still in your response email.

    • Ah. Thanks. I will get that removed. And I disagree a bit. I don’t think that professionalism calls for us to be silent or falsely nice. Perhaps I could have respoded differently , but I would absolutely still have responded In a way that is honest. But maybe try a more empathetic and understanding approach.

      • He could have used some empathy. It’s pretty clear that poetry doesn’t pay the bills very well and he’s looking for any kind of writing work he can get. Hence the mass-mailing for all job opportunities and statement that most employers don’t read his resume. It’s a tough economy for writers.

        I don’t say any of this to excuse how he responded to you (the first 3 paragraphs of his initial response were OK; the last paragraph was not “mild criticism” as NotBob claims but overtly rude), but you’re evidently a nicer person than average given that you reply to each job applicant, which many do not. It is precisely because you did reply that he had the opportunity to vent, which probably doesn’t arise often.

        But maybe he doesn’t need your empathy if he’s got an active spirituality unfettered to any specific religion.

  4. Most people, if moved to respond to a rejection at all, do so thusly: “Thank you for your consideration.” This guy’s response is the polar opposite of that. Challenging a rejection makes you look desperate. Arguing makes you look unprofessional.

    Silver lining though: At least you didn’t hire him and uncover his lack of professionalism (and manners) at a later date.

  5. Am I alone in thinking that writing about an artist who paints dinosaurs is NOT writing about natural history? TBH, I wouldn’t even have sent him a rejection letter, if he couldn’t follow the application instructions in the job spec., but that’s just me 🙂

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